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The cryptocurrency market is seeing a surge of institutional interest this April and leading the charge is Wall Street's first bank issued bought Bitcoin ETF and it is trading under ticker symbol and the BT right here on the Arca now the fund was launched last week with a highly competitive 0.14% fee and the launch by Morgan Stanley is adding fresh institutional attention to the market.
Well joining me at the New York Stock Exchange to discuss this historic.
Launch is Ally Wallace, the Global Head of ETF Strategy at Morgan Stanley Investment Management.
Well, Ally, welcome.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you for having us.
Well, I do want to ask you about MSBT.
So give us an idea of the demand you're seeing so far, right?
So you know we launched the product because we were seeing client demand just from the overall on our platform.
So really are trying to boil it down to three areas of the market from a client perspective.
What we're seeing right now is really from the Direct investors, so that's been a lot coming through our e-Trade platform.
But really the other two segments that we're focusing on that is just getting off the ground is that intermediary channel.
So everything from the high net worth client, independent adviser, wirehouse, and then lastly the institutional investor, which has been, you know, is taking a longer time to actually acclimate to the market but really has interest and understands that this is a long term positioning.
Position that they need to look at, so that's really the three areas of the market that we're trying to focus on.
Yes and Ally, it is 2026.
We just kicked off the second quarter, but we know when it comes to digital assets in particular the crypto majors, there is a lot of institutional demand.
So tell us what's behind some of this demand in terms of the areas where you are getting a lot of questions.
Yes, I'd say that a lot of investors.
Want to understand the benefit, the correlations.
How is this going to complement overall portfolio even within Morgan Stanley we have investment teams that already use the cryptocurrency ETFs, so that it was started as a home effort as actually having interest in this.
So the institutional investor, I think, is starting to understand that as if they're going to get exposure to this long term play, they need to address and understand.
How they place this in their portfolios and I do want to hone in on the structural advantages of MSBT here.
So how are you positioning some of these advantages to capture the institutional assets?
Sure, so I mean, as you mentioned in the beginning, so we are the cheapest in the market for a Bitcoin ETF ETF as of right now, so 14 basis points.
So price is one thing and we do are able to do that due to our scale, but I'd say that some other. that we tried to pool where who we worked with from a partner perspective.
So this is the first Bitcoin ETF that actually works with a dual digital custody model of one being a native digital custody and the other being a GC bank.
So really tried to bring together these two partners to create a more aforementioned product.
Yes, and building on what you just said, Ally, we spoke to the president of Coin Desk earlier this week, so.
Tell me a little bit about the custodial model here, right, so in that we have this dual custodial model that this is very much trying to ensure that from a protection standpoint, which you know I'd say some investors are always hesitant from who their digital custodians are.
So we thought of pairing a native digital custodian that has a lot of that infrastructure background, understands the market as well as pairing it with more of a traditional custodial.
Bank that would bring more I say ease in the market from investors that are not as used to being in that digital native environment so we really want to ensure that we were bringing both of those mindsets into one product and so that's been an exciting aspect to launching this.
And Ali zooming out to your broader ETF platform, how does digital asset exposure actually fit into Morgan Stanley's long term product roadmap?
It's Seems like everything has come so fast, but actually Morgan Daley has been in the background the last couple of years really working on a strategy.
So it's across all areas of the firm, and we of course sit in the investment management angle, and this is the first foray into cryptocurrency assets, but you will, you will see it across all different parts of the firm as well as it rolls out in wealth as well as our sales and trading aspect.
But for our platform we did.
For Solana and Ethereum ETFs, so likely see those Q2, end of Q2, beginning of Q3, and then we're reassessing other aspects of what cryptocurrencies might fit the platform and then we really see these as building blocks.
So how we can derive different innovations from these building block products, whether that be multi-currency products, whether that be option income products, that's all discussions that we're having right now into that next iteration of product.
And finally, Ally, you're here at the New York Stock Exchange and Morgan Stanley will be ringing the closing bell here in the aftermath of the launch of MSBT.
So that is a very momentous occasion for you and your team as well.
But in a nutshell, I'm sure you're getting this question.
So what makes MSBT stand out from the competitors?
I mean, as I said, like there's the two things first being the.
Which is of course a clear differentiator.
I think it being the first crypto ETP that's from a bank owned asset manager is really putting a stamp of some certification on the market, which I think investors and clients are really responding to.
It was not a fund that was taken lightly by the overall firm.
I'd say there's Probably over 200 people that touched this product in order to launch it, and that was across all different parts of financial crimes and risk and compliance.
So it is very much a vetted part of the overall strategy at Morgan Stanley, and I think clients will be able to investing in this will be able to see that.
Well, Ally, great to have you on the show.
Thank you so much for joining me here today at the New York Stock Exchange.
Thank you so much for having.