Trump is escalating a high stakes Wall Street turf war over the future of money.
In a social post, Trump explicitly backed crypto firms over traditional banks in the fight to offer yield on stablecoins.
Now this clash is the major roadblock stalling the clergy Act in Congress, and JP Morgan and Bank of America are warning that yield bearing stablecoins could. $6.6 trillion in deposits away from the banking system.
Well, the Clarity Act has also hit a new roadblock as banks say they can accept a proposed compromise from the White House.
Meanwhile, critics are pointing to potential conflicts of interest in the White House.
Well, joining us to weigh in on this legislative gridlock is Adam Minehardt, Head Of public policy for Chain Link Labs.
Good morning, Adam, and thank you so much for joining us.
So there's a lot of back and forth between the crypto companies and the White House, and recent comments do suggest we are incredibly close to getting the Clarity Act moving again.
So what is the real vibe on Capitol Hill right now and tell us about the likelihood that the Clarity Act passes this year.
Yup, uh, first, thanks for having me on.
Extremely complex policy and politics at play right now.
I'm still very bullish on this getting done in the next month or so.
The vibe on the Hill, um, I would say is very, very positive.
I think Democrats have moved a bit and wanna see a deal done.
So I think that's something that's very, very notable here.
There's a real shift there.
Um, I think what, what is real, the real The issue here is what you flagged at the top, which is just this battle between banks and exchanges on the payment of yield.
And I think the community bank lobby is extremely strong.
They have a very deep grassroots network in every state, every community, so they're able to really influence politics in a way, uh, maybe that few others in the financial services space can.
So, we gotta get through the stable coin yield issue first, before we really get to the hill.
So, that's where we're at.
Tough sled in the head.
Yeah, and Adam, I understand that you've called the Clarity Act a once in a decade opportunity to actually establish a legal framework for crypto, and as you also mentioned, the big sticking points seem to be yield defy, as well as the role of ethics here.
But given how complicated the politics are right now, how do lawmakers actually thread that needle without pushing away the crypto community?
And how do we actually gauge the temperature in the room right now?
Yeah, um, I, I mean, I think first and foremost, the White House, Patrick Witt in particular, has been a real leader here on keeping these discussions going.
Um, I think the temperature is one of, is, right now is one of frustration on the industry side.
They really wanna deal.
And I think there's a view here that banks aren't coming to the table.
Um, that said, the status quo without any legislation actually benefits the exchanges.
And that they can continue to operate as they are under current law, which allows them to pay yield.
So, ironically, it's really the banks that need a, need a deal here.
Um, so I think that could help push us forward.
Um, in terms of this being a once-in a-decade opportunity.
You know, I'm gonna double down on that.
I think politically, we're looking at the House, uh, going Democratic in the fall.
Um, 2028 is gonna be a toss-up.
So this window to get legislation done to benefit both consumers and industry, really doesn't come along very often.
So, I, I really think it closes in a couple of months.
Yeah, and Adam, just building on what you just said, what kind of compromise do you think really needs to happen here between the Trad 5 traditional banks, as well as the crypto industry to get us closer to the finish line?
Yeah, um, the compromise that was on the table initially was one to permit rewards paid based on transactions.
This is something similar to what banks do for, uh, debit card or credit card payments.
That was rejected.
So, I think something along on, along the lines of transaction-based rewards could be part of it, but I think they're gonna have to permit existing exchanges.
Uh, to continue to pay their existing customers some form of rewards on static balances.
I think that's gonna be a line in the sand here.
Um, and we're hopeful that we can get some form of agreement that permits the payment of some form of return for holders of USDC and other stablecoins, be it held in, on the exchange in other, in another financial institution.
But I really think we have to figure out a way that allows customers to get more uh access to return on static balances.
I think we're continuing to hear the drumbeat on this.
Banks are paying very, very low rates of interest on their, uh, on consumers' checking accounts.
So I think we gotta get some, some solution that allows the payment of yield in some way, in some manner.
That banks can get their arms, get their, their heads around, and the, uh, the exchanges can support here.
So, um, easier said than done.
Well, Adam, thank you so much for joining us today and thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule to join us here on FinTech TV.
Awesome.
Thank you so much for having me.